“The Vietnam War required us to emphasize the nation interest rather than abstract principles”(Henry Kissinger). The United States wanted to stop the spread of communism in Vietnam, but was it worth the death of millions of people including innocent civilians? Can conforming to society standards be more important to someone than pursuing their own personal desires? In the short story “On the Rainy River” by Tim O’Brien it shows how an individual’s belief is hard to sustain when there is a lot of pressure from society. The short story states that individuals may have to alter their own beliefs and values to fit in with individuals and society’s standards. Tim undergoes a moral dilemma that he attempts to resolve on his own. As a result the external …show more content…
Going to war always shows signs of might, heroism and honor. Although Tim had countless beliefs against the war, the power of influence of family and peers was so strong it made him go against his own beliefs. Elroy was a vast influence to Tim when it came to decision-making and he understood what Tim was going through. When Tim saw the envelope that said “EMERGENCY FUND”(pg79) it seems like Elroy has been through a similar dilemma when he tried to pursue his personal desires when he was younger and now he is trying to help Tim make a decision. As Elroy took Tim to the side of the river that was a section of Canada Tim bursts into tears and he agrees that his shame about avoiding the war and fear of disappointing his family is more meaningful than his civil beliefs. Tim conformed to society to protect himself because if he died during the war people would remember him as a moral man rather than remembering him as a quitter for leaving his …show more content…
Tim wanted to go to Canada, even though he had the complete opportunity to run away. He saw everyone he knew on the borderline calling him names like a coward and a traitor. This imagery shows how powerful society can be when it comes to making decisions for us. Tim was influenced by his country and family to go to war, which means he is risking his life just so he is not embarrassed and humiliated. When he returned home he told himself, “I was a coward. I went to the war”(Tim O’Brien page 84). Tim does not know how to deal with the conundrum of abiding by his moral principles and the influences of his family, friends and society. It shows how society can make anyone conform to be the same and to do what everyone else is doing. Since it took 20 years to tell his story, it demonstrates how society can make a person feel wrong and make them feel that they don’t deserve to pursue their own ideas. Did Tim make the right choice when he went to war? Society would say yes since he conformed to society and went to war. Even though he called himself a coward for going to war he would of called himself a bigger coward for fleeing to
Through the initial characterization of young Tim, O’Brien suggests that when faced with unexpected life changing dilemmas people will more often than naught end up clouded judgement and panic. Young Tim is ambitious and well educated, he is on his way to Harvard University on a scholarship. His life is heading in the best direction possible. This is until he receives the draft letter. His ideals “hurtling down a huge black funnel” and all he can do is “nothing …wait.” His helpless soon becomes rage, rage towards the government who’s motives for the war “were shrouded in uncertainty”. He is “too good for this war. Too smart, too compassionate, too everything.” “Why don’t they “draft some back-to-the-stone-age hawk?” Why must he, who doesn’t support this “uncertain” war “put [his] own precious fluids on the line.” As “the rage in [his] stomach” “burned down” he soon
In war, is freedom more valuable than life? For example, at the time of the Revolutionary War, people had to choose between liberty or life. When the colonies decided to break away from the tyrannical rule of King George the Third, sides had to be chosen. The Patriots, who wanted independence, fought for justice and liberation while the Loyalists wished to stand with Britain. Some chose not to stand on either side and remained neutral. Through threats and violent attacks, people were forced to choose a side. In the novel My Brother Sam Is Dead, it describes the different viewpoints and decisions of a character who decides to stay neutral in the war. The ironic deaths of Ned, Life, and Sam induces Tim to be neutral in the war.
TR- Sams selfish ways caused Tim to be neutral. QI- “...I am going to fight to keep my country free” (21)... “How could I not go when all of my friends were going?” (58) F- Sam showed no interest in his brother. He wanted to fight for freedom because his friends were doing it. He thought it’d be a daring experience even though he doesn’t understand how life works yet. I- Sams decision not only affects his life, but Tim’s life as well. Timmy had always looked up to Sam but this time Tim was not convinced his brothers choice was beneficial. G- Tim finally noticed the true colors of war, and came to a conclusion that if losing his life for others, or “freedom” was a fifty-fifty chance why risk it. He had already lost his father and brother, why would he put himself in the same situation other than teaming
Tim O’Brien was born in Austin, Minnesota on October 1, 1946 (Glerean). He spent his childhood growing up in Worthington, Minnesota. Worthington is a small town in the southern part of Minnesota. Tim’s father was an insurance salesman and participated in World War II as a sailor (Glerean). Tim’s mother was an elementary school teacher. Tim had an all-American childhood. He loved learning magic tricks, playing baseball, and reading books. He attended Macalester College and graduated in 1968 with a degree in political science (Tim O’Brien). Around the same time he received his diploma, Tim also received an unexpected and unwanted piece of paper: a draft notice (Glerean). O’Brien was against war, but despite this fact he went overseas to fight for America. He felt pressure from both his family and his country to fight in the war. O’Brien went to Vietnam despite his negative attitude toward the conflict. O’Brien fought in the Vietnam War from, 1969 to 1970. “He served in the 3rd Platoon; Company A, 5th Battalion, 46th Infantry
He states that “[He] would go to war- [He] would kill and maybe die- because [He] was embarrassed” (O’Brien 57). He soon realized that he should have escaped when he had the chance because it was better than experiencing the horrors and traumatic experiences that soldiers go through. Sometimes what society thinks can get the best of you and lead you to do things that are against your beliefs and morals. This is what Tim is trying to say through the book to the readers who might find themselves in similar situations.
In the stories Tim O’ Brien and I shared, there is this one little detail in common, we both made a choice. At first, the decision of moving to Canada felt like a selfish decision I was “forced” to make only for the family’s sake. Actually, I even held them responsible for my misery for a couple of weeks. But as those weeks and months pass by, I came to realize that such choice was actually one of the greatest things that can happen to me, for it was more than just an opportunity for our family to be whole but a breakthrough to endless possibilities towards reaching my dreams. However, for Tim, without any further details after he went to the war, we are
Without his reputation, without everything he had worked to build for years through studying and good grades, he would be useless. O’ Brien continues “I would go to war-I would kill and maybe die-because I was embarrassed not to (O’Brien 45).” Tim had spent his entire life being a ‘good guy’, ‘perfect’ even and when he was confronted with the decision to run away to Canada, he couldn’t because of that mentality. He had always followed the rules and done the right things and this ends up hurting him the most in the end. His heart tells him to go to Canada, but his instinct tells him to go to war.
In addition, despite John telling Owen “I can’t do it,” (Irving 508), Owen comforts him enough to go through with it simply by saying “DON’T BE AFRAID,” (Irving 508). Although Owen’s method of evading the war was extreme, Owen was able to give John the push he needed to admit that he did not want to fight in Vietnam. Elroy gave Tim a similar push by taking him out on the water. Tim admits “My conscience told me to run, but some irrational and powerful force was resisting, like a weight pushing me toward the war” (O’Brien 54). Tim knew that his place was in Vietnam, but didn’t have the courage to confront his doubts. Elroy gives Tim the opportunity he needs to come to terms with his anxiety and Tim expresses this when he says “I’ll never be certain, of course, but I think he meant to bring me up against the realities, to guide me across the river and to take me to the edge and to stand a kind of vigil as I chose a life for myself” (O’Brien
America is well known and hated across the globe for its involvement in foreign conflicts and affairs. The self proclaimed police of the world, America often goes too far when it comes to its involvement overseas. Many times the outcomes of these conflicts is overlooked and the effect it will have on america and other countries. Often times the American news media and politicians will claim that America 's goal is to bring freedom and liberty to other countries. However, this is a ploy to get the public on board and in reality war is used to make politicians and corporations richer. Tim O’Brien experienced this firsthand when he was shipped off to Vietnam in 1969. When he came back he finished his education at Harvard and was inspired to write a memoir about his experiences. “If I Die in a Combat Zone Box Me Up and Ship Me Home” tells his story as a foot soldier and the effects it had on himself and other soldiers physically, emotionally, and mentally. The books starts with O’Brien as a child playing war games and then moves to when he was drafted. In the bootcamp O’Brien had contemplated deserting but ultimately decided not to so that his family would not be disgraced. He was then sent off to Vietnam where he was placed in the Alpha company. O’Brien talks about things like his involvement in ambushes to his interactions with locals. With this piece O’Brien was trying to show the horrors of war and and how it affected the soldiers sent to fight in
He believes that their is a possibility that people are needlessly dying for a war that doesn’t make any sense. This makes him an outsider in his hometown because the way that he views this war is vastly different from his home town. Tim doesn’t get the sense of pride in his country for joining the war like his community does, and he asks questions about the war that he feels that his community won’t ask because of their patriotism, and viewing the war as something to be proud of.
Tim says he wants to run away from the war in fear of breaking his morals. He feels that the war goes against everything that he stands for, “If you support a war, if you think its worth the price, that’s fine, but you have to put your own precious fluids on the line” (O’Brien 2). Tim does not think he should have to fight in a war that he is against. Even though Tim seems to live by his morals, some of his actions are ironic. Tim is a pacifist, yet he watches pigs get killed everyday. He works in a slaughterhouse, taking out the blot clots from dead pigs by shooting the carcass with a water gun. For someone who doesn’t believe in fighting or killing, his job is pretty gruesome. Tim has an internal struggle deciding whether or not to go to the war, “My conscience told me to run, but some irrational and powerful force was resisting, like a weight pushing me toward the war. What it came down to, stupidly, was a sense of shame. Hot, stupid shame.” (6). Tim knows that if he does not go to the war he will feel guilty. He will not be able to handle the amount of “shame” he would feel if he ran away. The “shame” he talks about comes from, “All those eyes on me---the town, the whole universe---and I couldn’t risk the embarrassment. It was as if there were an audience to my life” (10). Tim thinks that other people will judge him for not going to the war. The pressure of having his family and friends disapprove of his actions is what
Tim O’Brien is drafted one month after graduating from Macalester College to fight a war he hated. Tim O’Brien believed he was above the war, and as a result pursued the alternative of escaping across the border to Canada. This understandable act is what Tim O’Brien considers an
When confronted with a moral dilemma with your entire life at stake, what would you do? One might like to believe that if they were confronted with a life altering risk, they would act without fear or hesitation, they fail to comprehend the emotional implications involved. This idea is highlighted through Tim O’Brien’s moral conflict and emotions in the short story “On The Rainy River”. Initially, the protagonist is introduced as a typical American young man, a college graduate with a prosperous future. However, in June 1968 O'Brien received a draft notice to fight in the Vietnam War, overwhelmed with uncertainty and frustration, he faced the most significant risk of his life.
With this part of the story, O’Brien is able to inject the theme of shame motivating the characters in the book. This chapter is about how the author, who is also the narrator, is drafted for the war. He runs away to the border between Canada and the United States, he stays in a motel with an old man for about a week and finds that he should go to war for his country. In the beginning it was about shame, he didn’t want to look like a coward because in truth he was scared. He was afraid to face the pressures of war, the humiliation and the fact of losing “everything”. This man was an average person who lived an average life with no problems, until he got the notice about the war, which caused the shame and fear of being seen as a bad person to come out.
Every standard and regulation an American abides by is influenced by their fellow citizens. The basic human nature of a person propels them to conform to the lifestyle of others. This concept is present within Henry David Thoreau’s Civil Disobedience in which he explains that even the most “successfully men can be imposed on [...] for their own advantage.” Thoreau implies that when a person is exposed to others of high authority or legitimacy, they develop the desire to act like and feel acceptance from said persons. As Mark Twain illustrates in his essay “Corn-pone Opinions”, people base their standards of ideals on “a matter of association and sympathy, not reasoning and examination.” Thus as humans rely heavily on