Friedrich Nietzsche’s view of master and slave morality lies in the differentiation of two periods of time in western civilization. Before the fall of the Western Roman Empire, master ideals such as passion, pride, competition and the concept of accepting ones fate were accepted and considered positive traits. After the fall; Judeo/Christian thought replaced master ideals with what Nietzsche calls, slave ideals such as equality, humility, conformity and the hating/rejection of one’s place in life. The vilification of master ideals following the fall of Rome and the rise of Christianity led to a perversion of hierarchical roles in society where the weak rule and the strong are suppressed and imprisoned by faulty morality. Nietzsche’s roman …show more content…
Here Nietzsche is saying Socrates was wrong and false in his beliefs, that the very nature of what he preached was faulty as he had only redirected the problem and did not solve it at all. Not only was his methodology faulty and decadent however, Nietzsche believes that Socrates’s very nature was corrupt “A monster in face, monster in soul”. He believes that Socrates by his very nature makes it impossible to come to proper conclusions as Socrates himself is a bitter man, angry at the strong, seeking to tear them from their position. He believes Socrates is the first weak man to rise up against the strong. He often refers to Socrates as a criminal, to Nietzsche he is a huckster, a conman seeking to throw down the ideals of ancient Greece to subvert master ideals and replace them with the ideals of the slave. Nietzsche sees Christianity not as the cause but as a mistake one made originally by Socrates “Socrates was a misunderstanding: the entire morality of improvement, the Christian included has been a misunderstanding…” He sees peoples interpretation of Socrates as a mistake, a misunderstanding of his motives, Nietzsche believes him to be a false prophet of sorts leading humanity down a darker path. …show more content…
He saw the cult as a religion of pure instinct and selfishness that he believes society must return to. He writes, “For it is only in the Dionysian mysteries, in the psychology of the Dionysian condition, that the fundamental fact of the Hellenic instinct expresses itself - its will to life.”. This will is something that Nietzsche feels Socrates through Plato perverted, ancient Greece was a place that encouraged strength and a pursuit of master ideals. He believes that ancient Greeks were concerned less with Plato’s world of being and more with the world of becoming. That living in and experiencing the joys and pleasures that life brings, was more important that thinking about what some abstract realm of being and the concepts of a higher reality. He saw in them a practicality that Socratic reason does not have despite the fact of being labeled as decadent due to them being famous for orgies. Remember though that to Nietzsche there is nothing decadent about following your nature, to him the Dionysian is simply celebrating life. Rather it is the rationalist who is the decadent with their insistence on doubt and their obsession with the higher plane. Nietzsche writes “To be sure
Nietzsche was a revolutionary author and philosopher who has had a tremendous impact on German culture up through the twentieth century and even today. Nietzsche's views were very unlike the popular and conventional beliefs and practices of his time and nearly all of his published works were, and still are, rather controversial, especially in On the Genealogy of Morals. His philosophies are more than just controversial and unconventional viewpoints, however; they are absolutely extreme and dangerous if taken out of context or misinterpreted. After Nietzsche's death it took very little for his sister to make some slight alterations to his works to go along with Nazi ideology.
This will to power is the animalistic hunger for attaining more power. But it is explained by him that there are those who cannot simply achieve that goal through force. So this will to power is eventually turned inwards, where the deprivation and repression of the basic instincts is seen as having power over them. This lifestyle is what Nietzsche describes as asceticism. A lifestyle of monks, priests and nuns, he describes it as having an aura of seriousness. This process of forgetting common sense, distrusting the instinct and withdrawing from the world is the same part of the same slaves revolt in morality that he explains in his earlier essay. This ascetic ideal is further embodied in the then flourishing world of science. He describes science as the "most recent and noblest form" of the ascetic ideal”(Nietzsche 3.25), adding that science is not opposed to religion or morality, it is aiming for truth. His optimism about civilization's advancement towards the truth is a sharp contrast to the bound discontent of Freud. Yet Nietzsche does have his own doubts about the faith in science. Similarly to the scientist questions the priest's faith in God, Nietzsche recommends the conscience to doubt even faith in truth. He is in no form a relativist, but he states emphasizes that knowing as many different perspectives as possible
Nietzsche is widely known as a critic of religion. In fact, he talks in depth about morality in regards to religion in his essays about the genealogy of morals. But the problem is not within religion itself or within morals. The problem is involved in the combination of the two to create society’s understanding of morality through a very religious lens. In fact, Nietzsche has criticism for almost any set of morals constructed by a group of individuals and meant to be applied to society as a whole. True morality, according to Nietzsche, requires a separation from these group dynamic views of morality- or at least a sincere look into where they originated and why they persist- and a movement towards a more introverted, and intrinsically personalized understanding of what morals mean in spite of the fact that “the normative force to which every member of society is exposed, in the form of obligations, codes of behavior, and other moral rules and guidelines, is disproportionally high” (Korfmacher 6).
He would disagree with what Socrates chose to do in accepting death and would look at the demanor of good and evil and raise the idea that this is all dogmatic, which then should be eradicated. If Socrates’s was to leave and struggle by failing to adhere to his principals he would suffer to a degree, but in his sufferage he would become a man of greatness. Nietzsche’s ideas of good and evil being formed through religion requires for it to be gone because God is “dead” therfore meaning is found at the end of ones
The problem with Socrates concerns the problem with the role of value and reason. Nietzsche believes that the bulk of philosophers claim that life is a corrupt grievance for mankind. Nietzsche reasoned that these life deniers were decadents of Hellenism, as a symptom of some underlying melancholy. For someone to paint life in such a negative light they must have suffered a great deal through the course of their own life. Furthermore, these no-sayers agreed in various physiological ways and thus adopted the same pessimistic attitudes towards life. Socrates was ugly, alike decadent criminals and by ways of these similarities was decadent as well. Nietzsche also claims ugliness as a physiological symptom of life in its decline supported by studies in phenology.
Christianity had become the enemy of life and nature and the church has stifled its followers by turning them into closed minded and weak humans. Nietzsche ultimately believed that religion creates a concept of anti-natural morality which damages our development as humans quite
Nietzsche believed that at there finest the Greek gave room for the task between the Apollo and the Dionysus. Weirdly for a philosopher Nietzsche believed that Greek culture started to go wrong when the Greeks started to forget about the Dionysus, they became two Apollonian because of philosophy in general and Socrates in particular, with the arrival of Socrates on the scene the Greeks fell in love with the idea of being able to control every thing through there minds, being totally wise, and being able to understand every thing, they turned agents drinking, wine and unreason. Nietzsche argued that this was deeply
Socrates is known to be a very wise man and speaks from the heart. Whenever he talks to a person he questions their answers. By asking several questions to test their knowledge and to see if they know what they’re talking about. He feels that people should think outside the box and theirs more than what the Gods think. People should be able to give out their opinion even if they are right or wrong. But living in Athens everyone believes in the Gods. If you do wrong the Gods will be angry and they will turn their back on you. In the chapter Euthyphro, he was surprise whenever he seen Socrates in the courthouse. Meletus did a lawsuit against Socrate because his been corrupting the youth by teaching them not to believe in gods. They
In his book, Twilight of the Idols, Friedrich Nietzsche aggressively challenges conventional schools of thought dating back to the ancients. Philosophy, as we know it, began over two-thousand years ago in Athens with the birth of Socrates. Socrates introduced the practice of reasoning and dialectics—the art of discourse hoping to bring individuals closer to some universal truth—to an Athenian society that previously held aesthetics, not logic, as indicative of goodness. Socrates revolutionized life in Athens, and by extension, the Western tradition. His beliefs are found in works written centuries after his death. He is heralded as the “father of philosophy.”
Nietzsche strongest argument was that, “Human nature is always driven by “the will to power””, but religion will tell one otherwise, saying that one should forbid their bad desires. Nietzsche is quite critical in particular towards Christianity since it was stated as the religion of slaves and pity by Nietzsche, caused by limiting one’s personal development since they were too obsessed with the treasures of the afterlife. Having said that, Nietzsche also referred to Buddhism as the nihilistic and the “desire for nothingness” religion, however he does praise certain aspects of the Buddhist teaching in comparison to Jesus’. Last but foremost, Nietzsche proves Socrates death to be at the hands of the acceptance of slave morality. For those who practice religion are guaranteed to fall as a slave rather than to become their own master due to all the restriction and standards set up by God. I simply do agree with Nietzsche due to all the evidence connecting back to each and every religion and philosophers. One must strive to reach and achieve their desire in order to be satisfied with one’s life. As people say, “no pain, no gain”, therefore one must live through all the suffering to accomplish greatness in their lives and make the most out of the given life. One can conclude, the practice of religion led many to the acceptance of slave
Socrates is insulting the people for what they believe in. Socrates is insulting the truth that is based on the gods. In Athens, divine law is held higher than civil law. In the story of “Antigone”, this idea is evident: “ I don’t consider your/ pronouncements so important that they can/ just… overrule the unwritten laws of heaven,” (Antigone, 12). Socrates does not respect this idea that divine law comes before civil law.
When Socrates was young, he meets and argues with all kind of people. Like other educated people in Athens, Socrates was fascinated with the study of the prevailing view of philosophical schools during at that time. With independent thinking, he does not want to think in the traditional way. He quickly recognized the two fundamental errors that contemporary philosophers had: First, they only criticize, argue each other without paying attention to the method of argument so they are difficult to assignment something right or wrong. This assignment is very important to decide the truthfulness of every debate. Second, they only focus on the study of cosmology
Following this is the death of Greek tragedy as we see the dionysian be eliminated from the greek world and the three waves of exhaustion. Relating back to Homer’s stylized poems that initially created the greek world into a tragic culture perspective demonstrated an individual lived in someone else’s world or fantasy. Poems were being incorporated into the society and structured based on these meanings in a hierarchical authority. Nietzsche found it sad that these poems were used and people lived in someone else’s world instead of their own. For example, in society a hard working person such a farmer who would do all the manual labor while the aristocrats decided upon the ways how institutions should be structured was living in someone else’s world. The poor worked hard and the rich stayed rich; which continues today if Nietzsche saw it now. A world of “heroes” is unstable,who engaged in agonistic struggle in a moral, political and cultural level. The culture didn’t change much as most us live in someone else’s world, not making our own decisions in life. Power isn’t available for some individuals that they could not redefine it or assert it. Consequences leading to an individual aspect and the elements that lead up to the elimination of the Dionysian from the Greek world. Nietzsche states,” Greek tragedy met her death in a different way from all the older sister arts: she died tragically by her own hand, after irresolvable conflicts, while the other died happy and peaceful at an advanced age”. Main reason tragedy dies is because metaphysics eliminates the dionysian. Real implications relating to agon of instability from heroic and tragic culture because they keep getting caught up between the tension of apollonian and dionysian as it demonstrates irresolvable conflicts. Exhaustion proved it led to the death of tragedy as truth will exist. Instability
In Nietzsche’s The Birth of Tragedy, the two impulses, Dionysian and Apollinian are identified. Dionysian is described as irrational, chaotic; to follow your emotions, your heart no matter how irrational your decision may be, it is what Schopenhauer defines as will (people wants). It is brought up with festivals that occurred in Rome and the tradition continued all the way to Babylon. In these festivals, people would dance until they couldn’t stand, not knowing where they were going or why they were dancing. Apollinian is described as following facts, science; think with reason, or anything that is apart of a thing’s individuality. Sculptures are seen as Apollinian because they have a form and were shaped which talks shows their individuality.
Nietzsche’s good will of appearance requires the maximum amount of honesty and courageousness in the face of truth. Having this expression of good moral sense brings us to Nietzsche’s modest view on art. The key to Great Art and even Greek Tragedy comes from the dichotomy of the Apollonian and the Dionysian. Nietzsche’s views of the Apollonian are classified more as visual arts such as dreams and illusions while his views on the Dionysian are more intoxication, such as getting caught up in the oneness with nature. Although his views conflict, they are intertwined. For example, without the Apollonian, the Dionysian lacks structure, and without the Dionysian, the Apollonian lacks the necessary energy and passion found in Great