In Sparta the right to live and be considered someone who can be part of the community took years and tremendous amounts of strength. Only men were considered to have any say and it didn't come easy to them. A man must be considered fit and not be born with any defects and a woman must be in great health and able to bear many sons. Any child born that was not considered to have these qualities would be cast out into the ravine and killed. Boys from the age of seven to eighteen would train and be educated so that they could join the military and women were educated so that they could take care of the household and bear many sons for there husbands which was considered there most important role. The men would be the only ones who had any political rights and …show more content…
The citizens were limited to males that's there parents could prove ancestry three generations back. Those males would start education under the guidance of the mother or male slave. At the age of six they would attend school learning philosophy, poetry, play, drama and more. Wealthier students would partake in public speaking training also. Then the male Athenians who were citizens would complete there military training and would have the right to vote in Athens. Then at the age of thirty wealthy male citizens would be able to serve in public office.
So between Athens and Sparta both forms of Government were similar in ways but as time passed Sparta countered with the thought of two kings on the throne and letting one person gain absolute control. This is where the two separated until later. Even with similarities there were also difference between the two city's. Sparta was one to be ruled by few and Athens was all men are given the opportunity to vote and participate. Over time in Athens you seem to have a better chance of becoming somebody where in Sparta most people were slaves and under the control of the Aristocrats in the
Sparta’s government was said to have a mixture of the major types of government which is oligarchy, monarchy, and democracy. While Athens seems to only have a democracy. In Document 2, an excerpt from “The Spartan Constitution” by Aristotle there’s a quote that states “they praise Lacedaemon because it is made up of oligarchy, monarchy, and democracy..” This quote tells exactly what type of government Sparta had. It’s also said that Sparta is the foundation for the governments we now have in the world. Athens on the other hand had a democracy as stated in Document 3, an excerpt from “Funeral Orations” by Pericles a quotes from this excerpt states “it is true that our government is a democracy, because it’s administration is in the hands, not of the few, but of many..” This quote clearly states that the type of government Athens has is a
Athens has a better government system then the Roman Republic. some might say the Romans were better. But Athens is more about the people; they are also more secure. They are also carful with who can be a citizen rather then "stingy". They are just more carful.
The two dominating Greek city states, Sparta and Athens, have there own strengths that make them the strongest throughout Greece. Sparta is "located in the southeastern Peloponnesus, in an area known as Laconia" (Spielvogel 53). Athens is on the peninsula of Attica (Geography). Sparta is know for their immense military might (Spartan Military). Athens is known better for their "leading naval force in Greece" (Women of the Ancient World). Their government systems were very different but very effective. Each Greek state was able to conquer a lot of land using different tactics. This brings up the thought that every country or state could be effective if all the people supported the cause. Political correctness however tends to breed idiots. With this being said, unenforced laws leads people to start thinking that they can get away with whatever they want or better yet, defy the lawful order of an officer. This can than become deadly and spread, until it cripples the system and a new one takes over. What does this new system believe in? Are they idea 's that are realistic? Or are they the idea 's of tree-hugging hippies who thinks everyone is going to "play ball." Well little does the tree-hugging hippie know, is that "The Man" who was "keeping him down" actually did know what he was talking about. Maybe the thirty plus years of military experience wasn 't complete garbage. Maybe it was keeping him and his family safe from the psychopaths and terrorists that
Envision a world where the people are ravenous and yearning for any remnant of food they could obtain, where the society is overrun and no one has a free say. This is the type of society the ancient Spartans would have lived like unlike the ancient Athenians. The Athenians lived a far more diverse life if compared to Sparta. Ancient Athens was better to live in than ancient Sparta due to its efficient and honorable government and flourishing economy.
Athens had a better government in my opinion. I think Athens had a better government because they created a democracy. According to the Athens and Sparta Document Set, a democracy means “rule by the people”. The Athens also got to abolish politicians they did not like. Athens also had ten generals, meanwhile, Sparta has two kings. In my opinion, I think that having ten generals is better than two kings because they understand you more. Sadly not all Ancient Athens were citizens, but if a free male would be a citizen if his father was a citizen of Athens. Later on, they changed that law, it was then bothering the father and mother had to be a citizen for the child to be considered a citizen. Sadly the women didn’t get that many rights but they soon they got more status. The Athens also made it to where not only the wealthy can engage in the jury service. In the Athens, you have to be an 18-year-old man to complete military training. On the other hand, in Sparta, you have to be a 30-year-old to complete military training. Basically, I’m trying to say that the Athens had a better
The government in Sparta followed a very different coarse than that of the Athenians. It was controlled by an oligarchy in which the power was held by a group of five men called ephors. Working below the ephors was the Council of Elders and an Assembly. Male citizens over age sixty could serve on the Council while anyone, male or female, over the age of twenty could be a member of the Assembly. Though the citizens had little say in the decisions made by the government, the system worked effectively. Over the years, the Spartan's brutal reputation in war grew so great that other nations and city-states were too frightened to attack Sparta even though the Spartan army was no larger then eight thousand men. The Spartan Constitution called for all men to begin their military education at the age of seven, where they were trained to be tough and self-sufficient. Every man in the army fought with a great deal of passion for his country. Life in Sparta may have been rough, but the rest of the Greeks envied the Spartans for their simplicity, straight forwardness, and fanatical dedication. The beliefs of Sparta were oriented around the state. The individual lived and died for the state. The combination of this philosophy, the education of Spartan males, and the discipline of their army gave the Spartans the stability needed to survive in Ancient Greece.
Athens government was a democracy which meant it was a state ruled by many. In this type of government they believed that the power was in the hands of the people and not just a select few that had absolute power as in Sparta. Although only about 10% of the Athenian population had political rights and this 10% were all male over the age of 18 with both parents being Athenian, it was more representative of what the people wanted then in Sparta where the decisions were not made based on what the people thought. In Athens citizenship was granted to people of all different social classes so whether you were rich or poor you had a say and a voice in the Athenian political life. In Athens you were expected to participate in government so
As the social studies textbook says, “Spartan women were raised to be strong and vigorous. They participated in sports....[They] had a good deal of freedom and responsibility...they had greater independence than women in other city states.” When other city states treated women like unequals, Sparta was the one that gave women rights. By giving women the right to participte in sports and get an education, the city-state of Sparta coud ensure that the women could give birth to smart and healthy children.
First, is that women had more freedom than other Greek women. Spartan women could create friendships with whoever they please. Mr.Duckworth states, “In Sparta women had rights that other Greek
a difficult test to graduate and become a full citizens of Sparta. Only the young men who graduate to a soldiers would receive the aristocratic citizenship. If they fail the tests they would have never became a citizen, but they would become a perioeci, the middle class people. So to an extent your class was based on rank rather than birth. If the young Spartan warriors passed the tests, they would go on to living in the barracks, where they would train as soldiers but they young men were required to marry a Spartan women to give birth to young Spartans. The state would give the Spartan men a piece of land that would have slaves working farming it and they did not have to tend to anything. The income was provided for the soldiers support so they could remain full-time soldiers. At the age of 30 the Spartan soldiers were allowed to live with their families, but would continued to train as a warrior until the age of 60 when they would retired from military service.
Women in Sparta had more rights than most women in Ancient Greece. They could leave their homes and move around town, while Athenian women could not. They could compete in sports, and they weren’t responsible for household duties like cooking or cleaning. However, few people say that Athenian women are treated better than Spartan women. They claim that Athenian women have more knowledge, and occasionally could leave their homes.
In ” Athens and Sparta”, Mr.Duckworth states, “where they differed was that while Sparta had militaristic values, Athens were democratic.” Athens and Sparta were nearly identical until it came to their government. Athens would have been a better place to live since they had a democracy, wanted to conquer more land to further establish their military and had stronger family connections. Athens government operated as a democracy rather than like Sparta, which was an oligarchy. Since Athens operated as a democracy, it made them similar to the government in the United States.
The ancient civilization of Greece contained many different city-states; two of these city-states were Sparta and Athens. Sparta and Athens were different in their values, politics, and societies. Sparta was focused on their military, discipline, and to have a strong state. Athens was a democratic state that was peaceful and where women were open to culture and democracy. How do these two city-states differ?
The Athenian people had a very modernized and an opened outlook towards life. In contrast to Sparta, in Athens, males were not obliged to join the armed forces they had the opportunity to pursue a good education and distinct varieties of arts and sciences courses. The people of Sparta were not open to other forms of education they only focused on military obedience and power. They didn’t also associate with people outside their territories. Family ties in Athens however, were much stronger. Women were officially dependents of their spouses or their fathers. Women in Athens had no right to own an asset apart from their family. In Sparta, women enjoyed more privileges than women in the other Greek countries did. Women in Sparta were stronger and they formed close relations with their men as they chose. Women could also possess their own assets. In the Athenian region females worked on house chores such as cooking or weaving but in Sparta, the females were free of all of such chores. (Differ,
Athens and Spartan culture was believed to be two polar opposites- but were they really? In our text this week we studied the two societies, and while there were many blatant differences, many similarities existed behind closed doors. The purpose of this paper is to explore the ways the two societies took part in public life, who held public office, the rules of voting the elected officials, and finally the governmental structures.